Though I will have more extensive and insightful commentary a bit later, I'd like to take a moment to sum up my day.



Dear Joss,

How could you??? Why? WhyWhyWhy??? The last people to do this were the Farscape folks who killed off my favorite character only to replace her with a grey space slut and redhead who screamed a lot.

What you did, it is a very wrong thing. A. Very. Wrong. Thing.

No love,

Me





Dear Viggo,

I think that I nearly spontaneously combusted during both sex scenes in your movie. Good fucking god.

Much love (among other things),

Me


From: [identity profile] travelingcarrot.livejournal.com


Sorry, but you can't have enjoyed the second sex scene. I've been reading the imdb boards and it seems I raped her, so it is impossible that as a woman you could have been anything other than appalled and disgusted.

Viggo.

P.S. I didn't enjoy doing it either.

From: [identity profile] savageseraph.livejournal.com


Dear Viggo,

Umm, I've seen movies with rape scenes in them, Liquid Sky for example, and this was not a rape scene. Perhaps those other folks were not paying close enough attention during the film. That happens a lot. I should know. My students demonstrate that fact to me over and over and over again.

Much with the love,

Me.

PS If you could arrange for more movies were your character is providing oral sex to his female SO, I think that would be splendid.

From: [identity profile] nikkie222.livejournal.com


I totally agree; that was not rape. She pulls him back, kisses him, unzips him, and moves his jeans out of the way. I've seen the movie twice now. It was, however, a very hot sex scene, as was him going down on her. For virtually no flesh shown in either scene, those were two of the best sex scenes I've ever seen!

From: [identity profile] savageseraph.livejournal.com


That's exactly my response, about the not-rape and the hotness.

From: [identity profile] travelingcarrot.livejournal.com


It's been a while since I went through all the sex scenes in Viggo movies (dear, dear, life gets in the way of the important stuff sometimes, doesn't it?) but he goes down on Pearl in WoTM for sure, and I seem to remember that it is at least suggested in a couple of others. Maybe Perfect Murder? Darkly Noon?
There was a thread on VFB once where we concluded that Viggo loves going down on women, and makes a point of getting it into every love scene, and I'm sure we must have had evidence other than the products of our fevered imaginations. If only I could spend today watching every Viggo movie checking. *sigh*

From: [identity profile] savageseraph.livejournal.com


There was a thread on VFB once where we concluded that Viggo loves going down on women, and makes a point of getting it into every love scene

Well, isn't that lovely to think about...

From: [identity profile] travelingcarrot.livejournal.com


If you like thinking about such things, I have plenty of ideas about Viggo and his sexual preferences, some of them even non-slashy, that I would love to discuss... *eg*

From: [identity profile] travelingcarrot.livejournal.com


Oh, and I had a huge problem with that sixty-nine scene, BTW... I couldn't decide which of them I wanted to be most.

From: [identity profile] ithiliana.livejournal.com


I must admit I recognized Viggo's butt from tc's icon!

But I agree--it wasn't a rape scene.

She hit him first--Joey came out--they fought--and then they grabbed each other and fucked like crazy--it was hot and scary and disturbing but I never saw it as rape, not for a moment.

Adrenaline surge, mutual freak-out, but she was turned on. Heh, as was I.

From: [identity profile] travelingcarrot.livejournal.com


Obviously some people have (a) never seen a real rape scene, and (b) never had angry sex.

I was slightly pissed off that although the cinema was nearly empty there was a group of kids right behind me who somewhat inhibited my drooling and squeeing. Can't wait to have it on DVD so I can *ahem* respond more freely.

From: [identity profile] nikkie222.livejournal.com


I keep alternating between being amused and pissed off by that debate over there. It's ridiculous.

And, yes, I want to slo-mo that scene... (and the one with his butt) *drools*

Love your icon!

From: [identity profile] travelingcarrot.livejournal.com


Thanks. The view of his butt in Psycho, which the icon comes from, is better than the view in HoV from an aesthetic p.o.v. (especially as you can see other things if you look carefully), but in HoV he's having sex at the time...

From: [identity profile] savageseraph.livejournal.com


I am somewhere between amused and astonished. And I think that I feel some meta about it coming on.
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